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"Even people who are steeped in the academic art world are, on some level, lying to themselves when they try to put Picasso on the same level as the old greats."

I have long thought that the greatest painter of the 20th century was Norman Rockwell, not primarily for his technical skill (as great as that was), but because of how his work exemplified and celebrated the beauty to be found in the everyday life of his times. He was an artist for the people as a whole, not just artistic circles.

"The difference between the Corporate and the Modern/Post Modern is really in the ethos and the different people making each. Post-modernism is largely academic (and therefore subsidized), while the corporate art of the 20th century is driven by profit, which is gained by producing art that regular people buy at scale."

C. S. Lewis noted something similar, although he didn't use the term "corporate." He saw that art became split into "high-minded" and "popular" works.

"Until quite modern times - I think, until the time of the Romantics - nobody ever suggested that literature and the arts were an end in themselves. They 'belonged to the ornamental part of life', they provided 'innocent diversion'; or else they 'refined our manners' or 'incited us to virtue' or glorified the gods. The great music had been written for Masses, the great pictures painted to fill up a space on the wall of a noble patron's dining-room or to kindle devotion in a church; the great tragedies were produced either by religious poets in honour of Dionysus or by commercial poets to entertain Londoners on half-holidays.

It was only in the nineteenth century that we became aware of the full dignity of art. We began to 'take it seriously' as the Nazis take mythology seriously. But the result seems to have been a dislocation of the aesthetic life in which little is left for us but high-minded works which fewer and fewer people want to read or hear or see, and 'popular' works of which both those who make them and those who enjoy them are half ashamed. Just like the Nazis, by valuing too highly a real, but subordinate good, we have come near to losing that good itself." - C. S. Lewis, "First and Second Things"

"Until quite recently-until the latter part of the last century-it was taken for granted that the business of the artist was to delight and instruct his public. There were, of course, different publics; the street-songs and the oratorios were not addressed to the same audience (though I think a good many people liked both). And an artist might lead his public on to appreciate finer things than they had wanted at first; but he could do this only by being, from the first, if not merely entertaining, yet entertaining, and if not completely intelligible, yet very largely intelligible. All this has changed. In the highest aesthetic circles one now hears nothing about the artist's duty to us. It is all about our duty to him. He owes us nothing; we owe him 'recognition,' even though he has never paid the slightest attention to our tastes, interests, or habits. If we don't give it to him, our name is mud. In this shop, the customer is always wrong." - C. S. Lewis, "Good Work and Good Works"

"Many modern novels, poems, and pictures, which we are brow-beaten into 'appreciating,' are not good work because they are not work at all. They are mere puddles of spilled sensibility or reflection. When an artist is in the strict sense working, he of course takes into account the existing taste, interests, and capacity of his audience. These, no less than the language, the marble, or the paint, are part of his raw material; to be used, tamed, sublimated, not ignored nor defied. Haughty indifference to them is not genius nor integrity; it is laziness and incompetence. You have not learned your job. Hence, real honest-to-God work, so far as the arts are concerned, now appears chiefly in low-brow art; in the film, the detective story, the children's story. These are often sound structures; seasoned wood, accurately dovetailed, the stresses all calculated; skill and labour successfully used to do what is intended. Do not misunderstand. The high-brow productions may, of course, reveal a finer sensibility and profounder thought. But a puddle is not a work, whatever rich wines or oils or medicines have gone into it. 'Great works' (of art) and 'good works' (of charity) had better also be Good Work. Let choirs sing well or not at all." - C. S. Lewis, "Good Work and Good Works"

"I do most thoroughly agree with what you say about Art and Literature. To my mind they can only be healthy when they are either (a) admittedly aiming at nothing but innocent recreation or (b) definitely the handmaids of religious or at least moral truth. Dante is alright and Pickwick is alright. But the great serious irreligious art-art for art's sake-is all balderdash; and incidentally never exists when art is really flourishing. In fact one can say of Art as an author I recently read said of love (sexual love I mean), 'It ceases to be a devil when it ceases to be a god'. Isn't that well put? So many things-nay every real thing-is good if only it will be humble and ordinate." - C. S. Lewis, Letter to Dom Bede Griffiths, April 16, 1940

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I like that the "Eclectic" period has allowed elements from older ethoi to come back. Theocracy has a couple excellent uses of polyphony in power metal--"I Am" https://youtu.be/O3TsVaFR870?t=337 and "Martyr" https://youtu.be/qJl7QYs1bS8?t=215

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