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They really couldn't shut up about this guy and his boring music back in the day.

One of the interesting parts of late '90s mainstream music was how anyone who had listened to anything made before it recognized instantly that it was bad. Regardless of what scene you were into, once this stuff and the boy band junk filled the airwaves, everyone agreed it was terrible. It looks like time has vindicated those people, because no one listens to any of this now.

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The amount of musical competence in the 1980s was night and day different from what we got by 1997 especially. The only people I know of who still listen to Manson are people like the Amazing Atheist.

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The only people who thought Marilyn Manson was hardcore were sons of Midwestern realtors who grew ponytails and bought Jaguars after their wives left them for Puerto Rican HVAC guys.

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Another interesting phenomenon was big metal bands trying to be edgy alternative bands to maintain relevancy to terrible effect. All of the big 4 thrash bands tried it (even Slayer, who put out a weird goth album in 1998), as didd Iron Maiden, and the funny thing was the kids were blown away when they went back to the 80s stuff. Nobody wanted Load or Cryptic Writings, they wanted Master of Puppets and Rust in Peace.

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What a weird era. Another monster (pardon the pun) album of the day was Rob Zombie's solo record Hellbilly Deluxe. At least one of my friends who was big into that and other Ground Zero edge fare is now huge into classic Metallica. So you may be right about the gateway effect.

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Dec 13, 2023Liked by David V. Stewart

If you want a chuckle, Red Letter Media did a game show where they had to guess if the lyrics were Marilyn Manson or Bloodhound Gang.

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